Property Management and Investor Information: Can The Owner Demand to Have Their Tenants Alarm Code?

Can The Owner Demand to Have Their Tenants Alarm Code?

The better question should be, "Does the owner want to have the alarm codes?"

My answer is an emphatic no.  The landlord/owner should not be giving the tenant any reason to blame them for lost items in the tenant's rental dwelling.  Having access codes will put the landlord on the short list of suspects.

If you need to get into the property, give proper notice and go in.  If there is an alarm you might need to notify the police in advance where a forced entry is needed (which is very rare).

If you don't know what a proper notice is in your state, check with a property manager or the local rental housing association.

Robert A. Machado, CPM, MPM

HomePointe Property Management

Sacramento, Yolo, El Dorado, and Place Counties

We manage residential and commercial property.

916-429-1205 x 105

rmachado@HomePointe.com

Comments

You're right. In CA tenant's rights include a 24-hour advance notice. It's not always convenient, but I deal with in on a regular basis.

Posted by Vickie Nagy, Realtor, Pre-Foreclosure Specialist Certified, CDPE, 925.407.7987 (Keller Williams Realty in Danville CA) 5 months ago

I wouldn't want my tenant's alarm code. In a true emergency, let the alarm go off.

Posted by Jen Bowman - Real Estate Agent in Decatur, GA serving metro Atlanta (Success Realty ) 5 months ago

I'm with YOU on this.... even with annual municipal safety inspections of apartments, we request the tenants have someone on the premises to allow entrance.

Diane

Posted by Diane Rice, Rice Prprty Mgmnt & Rlty, LLC, South Holland, IL 5 months ago

I control my tenants' alarm codes and the master password.....property managers can establish this tier and the read-out will show what code was entered when...if the tenant wants to be away when entry notice has been given, I can enter with repairman and my code shows on the alarm display.....it has never been a problem.

Posted by Wallace S. Gibson CPM * GRI (Gibson Management Group, Ltd.) 5 months ago

Wallace:  We have had our tenants accuse us AND the repairmen of theft of personal property, as a result of us/them entering in WITH PERMISSION of the absent tenant.  We have learned our lessons and will not take these risks again!  We know a lawsuit when we see it!

Posted by Diane Rice, Rice Prprty Mgmnt & Rlty, LLC, South Holland, IL 5 months ago

I never ask the tenant for the alarm code I always make arrangements before so that someone is there to let the repairmen in.

Posted by John Douglas (Prudential Partners Realty) 5 months ago

Diane - the code read-out from the alarm company shows what code was used for entry at a specific time and that our code was not used for the supposed entry.....in 45 years, I have NEVER had a tenant accuse me or a repairman of taking their belongings.....never.

The alarm systems I deal with are owner/developer installed, state-of-the-art with multi-tier authorization...I keep control of the codes and can order a print out of entry codes used at any time...

 

Posted by Wallace S. Gibson CPM * GRI (Gibson Management Group, Ltd.) 5 months ago

Alarms do fall behind the times and must be kept up to the current technology.   Not all owners are willing to do this and not all tenants want to pay the fees.  Another property management hassle.

Posted by Robert Machado, CPM MPM Sacramento Area Property Manager and Property Management (HomePointe Property Management, CRMC) 5 months ago

Wallace:  The "accusers" were "hunting" for an opportunity.... (I'll have to write a blog on this one)...  anyway, of course they FOUND their loot that THEY had misplaced, but this one incident awakened us!!  (We have inherited tenants that we did not place... and find out what they are up to later on down the line.)

Posted by Diane Rice, Rice Prprty Mgmnt & Rlty, LLC, South Holland, IL 5 months ago

Even tenants you place may be crooks.  None of us is immune.

Posted by Robert Machado, CPM MPM Sacramento Area Property Manager and Property Management (HomePointe Property Management, CRMC) 5 months ago

LOL, lol, roflol at Robert!..... you are Soooooo right on that one!!!

Posted by Diane Rice, Rice Prprty Mgmnt & Rlty, LLC, South Holland, IL 5 months ago

I used to think that my decision we all good and everyone was happy with the end result.  Then I came back to work the second day and found out that staying in this business means minimizing mistakes and working it out with unhappy people.  What does roflol mean?

Posted by Robert Machado, CPM MPM Sacramento Area Property Manager and Property Management (HomePointe Property Management, CRMC) 5 months ago

LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!!!!  ROFLOL means:

Rolling On Floor Laughing Out Loudly!

 

Posted by Diane Rice, Rice Prprty Mgmnt & Rlty, LLC, South Holland, IL 5 months ago

Oh, I thought it was Rolling On Floor Laughing Out Loud.

Thanks for clearing that up!

Posted by Robert Machado, CPM MPM Sacramento Area Property Manager and Property Management (HomePointe Property Management, CRMC) 5 months ago

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